Hello again,
I've been a little slow on the posts. Usually, I write my blog posts during down time while at work. But these days I've been doing other secret writings when I should be working. I've also been spending more time on other forms of wargaming social media besides blogs.
And you know, there's only so much of me to go around. The absence has to be felt somewhere. Which works for me, because I have one of those personalities that is best experienced in small doses.
Today is a small post about how overthinking terrain leads to distracting projects. And Overthinking Silly Stuff...is my middle name.
Overthinking Terrain
As seen previously, I've painted up a bunch of these resin fences for use in Quar games to move away from using the Snake rail fence...
And use them I did. But in the process, I saw something disturbing, and now I can't unsee it.
Look here:
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Do You see it? |
Here's an even WORSE example:
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Now You see it. Isn't it.... Hideous? |
I know right? I, of course, mean those itty-bitty-teeny-weeny-barely-noticeable-but-utterly-wretched-and-disgusting gaps in between the fence bases. Now you can't unsee it either. Let's all take moment for the feeling of nausea to pass.
Yes; in truth this is not a big deal and yes; most wargaming fences have this appearance and yes; doesn't effect game play at all and yes! I like to engage in hyperbole.
But I am not your average miniature wargamer. I am an Overthinker. And Overthinking can sometimes lead to over doing. The gaps had to be filled with something as modular as the fences themselves.
In the end, I made a bunch of little stone pillars to fill the gaps.
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My hand in the picture for a sense of scale. Also, because I have gorgeous cuticles. |
The process, while time consuming, was not difficult. I used my Proxxon to cut a spare piece of foam into 1" cubes and diamond shapes (because I'm that kind of crafter now, where I have spare foam just lying around. Some might call that hording trash; others might call it preserving supplies). Then just carved a brick / stone pattern into it.
The carving was done with an Exacto knife and then gone over with a dull pencil like one sees on Youtube in almost every crafting video. I steal from the best.
Continuing to steal learn from the best on YouTube, I put the cubes into a coffee can with a bunch of rocks, closed the lid, and shook the hell out of it to give the pillars some texture.
This did not really work that well. I mean it worked, just not super well. I suspect it's because the pillars are too large to get beat up sufficiently. Just like me. And it had the side effect of being really noisy and waking up my children, because I do hobby stuff late at night after everyone is asleep.
So, I ended up just using a big rock and a foil ball and pressing into the foam.
And here's a PRO TIP not on the Youtubes; Don't just grab some dirty rocks from your backyard, throw them in a can, and then shake it with your big strong arms; because when you pull the lid off all this dust is gonna come billowing out.
After all that it was just painting them up.
AND NOW:
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Gorgeous! |
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Superb! |
Somewhere along the way I figured out that if you cut the pillars into a diamond shape you can do 45-degree angles....
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marvelous! |
And there we go. No more unsightly gaps. This post reminds me of those make-over shows where they have a revolting 'before' image and a glamorous "after' image. And all it took was hours and hours and hours of work in between.
I think this an ingenious solution. I would expect no less from you.
ReplyDeleteThanks JF. I don't know about ingenious, that's too strong a word. That sounds like you like hyperbole too. 😁
DeleteAwesome solution Stew! Very clever as well as providing a slightly unusual look to the fences to make them more Quar like.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ben. I agree that the stone pillars add a little more something to the table. like one more item of detail. 😁
DeleteYou really are the master at terrain Stew. A great solution to one of the things that has always annoyed me about walls and fences.
ReplyDeleteThanks Lawrence. It's annoyed me too. But Master is too strong a word, but we all like hyperbole. I'm an enthusiastic amateur at best. 😁
DeleteThose look great!
ReplyDeleteThanks Bill. Appreciate it. 😁
DeleteNEVER let them tel you are hoarding trash! Those odd bits of foam are what is called "first tier recycling" You are a hero for saving the planet! And, as you get an eye for it< you can spot the wargaming building hiding in every bit of packing foam, and they are just dying to be set free!
ReplyDeleteBTW those look very nice
Thanks Anton. All us wargamers support each other in out bad habits.
DeleteJust like gamblers and addicts. 😁
Very clever and the fences with their corner stones now have a uniquely Quar look to them.
ReplyDeleteThanks Peter. I don't know if uniquely Quar but I do think they add another little detail to the table. 😁
DeleteA clever idea and helps give the fences a suitably Quar look
ReplyDeleteThanks Neil. I appreciate it. 😁
DeleteNow that is a very clever and simple solutions to those unsightly gaps, which look great when all painted up and on the table:)!
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve. those gaps were unsightly, but now we got fancy rocks! 😁
DeleteThey look really good. But (and trying not to overthink this) now you have 'hard' cover at the corners and 'soft' cover in between! : )
ReplyDeleteThanks Ivan, I appreciate the comment. I don't mind the little bits of better cover in a man-to-man skirmish game. These dudes need all the cover they can get! 😁
DeleteStew, (nice cuticles - "cute" cuticles?)
ReplyDeleteYou could have got around this by not having square ended bases on the fences; if trimmed into a "V" at each end it allows them to join at different angles. A "U" shape would also work and be less jarring than a sharp "V".
In the world of wargaming, there's no such thing as hoarding; it's all merely stuff that "will come in useful one day"......☺
Neil
Thanks Neil. The fences were purchased and came like that. I could of cut the bases i suppose but that seemed like a lot of work and possibly damaging the items, as I suspect their just 3d printed whatever.
DeleteAll hoarders say that stuff; just like all gamblers say they're bound to win big eventually. 😁
Good little pieces to cover the gaps Stewart, you could almost say they are the toupees of fencing covering those annoying gaps ! LOL As for the shaking approach, I much prefer the pressing a rock in manually, as you can really control the amount of texture you want, plus you don't damage the flat bases ! LOL
ReplyDeleteThanks Dave. I was going for speed with using the can, but in the future will stick to pressing it in. 😁
DeleteGreat stuff sir!
ReplyDeleteThanks Michal!
DeleteGood idea Stew and they look like they're supposed to be like that too.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ray. I did custom cut the blocks to match up, which I suppose helps the appearance. 😁
DeleteI was going to suggest that I would have gone with a shortcut along the lines of what Neil Patterson has already described. However, what you have done adds much more to the look of your table, so it's all good (and besides, it somehow looks "quar" like to have all those pillars at the fence junctions).
ReplyDeleteThanks Ed. I'm not sure that thinking like Neil would be a good thing or a bad thing. 😆😆
DeleteIn the end it worked out and I got to practice more with foam modelling, and the experience will come in handy.
Hey I resemble that remark! ☺
DeleteBesides which I'm unique - NOBODY thinks like me......☺
Neil
Neat job and different enough for it to be a Quar thing. I also overthink terrain, I just don’t produce vastly better outcomes as a result.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mark. Well, I only did this project so I could delay in doing another one...
DeleteNice fix of a terrible and unlivable problem! So what are you going to pasture in these pastures?
ReplyDeleteAnd I appreciate the use of a kid's knife... the ultimate dull cutting tool!
Thanks David. No plans to create something for the insides.
DeleteI misled you with the kid knife. I use that for putting stuff on miniature bases. Not used in this process.
Small doses perhaps if one only gets to interact with you very rarely like me, otherwise, I'll happily overdose during our alltooinfrequent meetups. :)
ReplyDeleteInteresting solution. I have some snowy fencing for that setup I laid down for you when we played Bolt Action that might need something similar - though I'll need to get them out to be sure.
Being foam, how do you deal with them being perhaps light weight? Do they move about easily on the tabletop or have you weighted them down for better stability?
Thanks Dai. I wish we saw each other more often too.
DeleteGood point about the weight. I haven’t used them in a game yet so who knows? I could probably push in some nails up the bottom to add some heft.
You know, at first I thought, hey what's the big deal, the gaps don't look that bad. But these actually do a lot to make it look way better, I think it was worth all that effort.
ReplyDeleteThanks SD. It wasn’t really a big deal. Just something to do really and I like making a big deal out of small things I do so I feel like a big deal. 😀
DeleteGood idea Stew, or, you could have just made a bunch of right angled corners and four way + intersections to match your fencing....that's what I did, although I had made all my fencing so easy for me to match it up....would have been a bit harder for you given your fencing is 3d printed....and Neil pinched my line a!bout cute cuticles
ReplyDeleteThanks Kieth. Neil strikes again!
DeleteNext time I make fences that will be an option. 😀
As a fellow overthinker, I would say that if not you're doing that then you're doing the hobby wrong! ;) I think the thought and effort really paid off because your solution looks seamless. There's something to be said for immersion when it comes to miniatures and terrain. As you know, I'm all about it and I'm glad you were able to come up with a solution to this problem as it will only increase the immersion when the anteaters march off to war! :D
ReplyDeleteThanks Jeff. It’s true the more details you can add the greater immersion, and even makes fantasy settings like Quar or Fallout seem more real. 😀
DeleteGlad to hear you've come around to the idea of storing kit for future use, I like Antons line about saving the planet but I'm not sure about it? See if you'd continued with your home made fencing you could have designed them to fit without building pillars but I'll give you they look good and don't look like ACW 1 terrain which is a bonus, how do you get into the pastures? Are gates on the horizon? What do Quar gates look like? What are Quar domesticated animals like? Enough with the questions already, nice filler post!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Thanks Iain. Saving the planet one scrap at a time. some of the fence sections have gates but they are closed. But it's not really a big deal in Quar games to cross a fence.
DeleteQuar animals are kinda strange. stuff you would see in a movie where Jen Henson did the puppets but had a fever. I have some in my paint cue.😁
I thought you meant the fact that the fences are not all the same way around, so the supports for the verticals change sides!😂
ReplyDeleteYour 'big ends' make the fences look far more impressive. You did a wonderful job of the brick work too—not that I am surprised in the least as your previous home-made terrain has been tops. That rock bashing trick is a top tip.
Regards, James
thanks James. That trick is stolen from people smarter than me on the internet. 😁
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