Sunday, September 15, 2024

This Quar's War play through AAR

I've been taking part in a lot of rules discussions over on the Quar Facebook group.  Which is strange because a few months ago I never even looked at FB.  Social media eats everyone.  There's even an ACW gaming group....

Anyway, It's a fun time, because I'm a big nerd and I like to talk rules with other nerds, more than I like talking about my children with other parents.  And I got to DO something while at work besides actually work. 

Though one thing I have noticed with all the playthroughs I've seen; is that there's a lot of variation in how people are actually paying the game.  For instance on youtube there is:

 This One 

And this one

and this other one

which are all slightly- to-Very different.  It's not the worst thing in the world of course, we all know that the worst thing in the world is when Starbucks gets my coffee order wrong.  I have a hard life.

Yet as an Official Quar Ambassador (self-appointed but ratified by paying a small fee online (kinda like becoming ordained)), I thought I would also provide a walk through as this is how I'm currently playing it.  My own slightly-to-very different playthrough.  I'm not saying that my way is the right way, or that  it's 100% played as intended.   What follows is a VERY detailed ARR of a small engagement.  Some familiarity with the rules will be helpful but not necessary.  And the idea is that I'll link it back to the FB group and they can all tell me what is right or wrong or medium both.  

The rules are available for free HERE so I'm not giving anything away.  So here we go:

Quick note: regular readers (fools that you are to waste your time so) who have no interest in Quar can skip this with no hard feelings. But do remember that I have read (Ok, I skimmed) all of your AARs with Naps or Samurai or RCW or ECW or any CW that's not the ACW, and that you probably owe me.  Yes I'm kidding (or AM I?).


This Quar's PowerPoint War

To make this super clear, I'm gonna use PowerPoint to illustrate. Here is the set up:

Pretty right?
Never mind, We all can't be Picasso

A 2 foot by 2 foot playing area.  The Green is an area of light woods that takes up 8 inches, then there is 8 inches of clear ground before a wall resented by a dashed line.  The Crusaders at the bottom were moving off to the right for some unknown purpose when they were ambushed by some Coftyrans in the woods.  

Each side has 140 points.  The Coftyrans (blue circles) have a Yawdryl, a Cryfen LMG, and 3 rhyflers with Harlechs (one acting as the LMG loader at the start).  The Crusaders (green circles) have a Ryshi, an Ha-11 LMG, and 3 rhyflers with Bogens (one as a loader for the LMG).   Each side will also start with 3 Pluck.

We'll do 1 turn, with the side with the most Quar left standing as the major victor.  Sudden death: if any side has 3 Rhyflers OOA (or worse) then the game immediately ends.  

The Activation deck is shuffled, and one card removed.  The Coftyrans are the first active player as they are ambushing.  

For the first Activation, the Coftyran player has the LMG do an Area Fire action at the two crusaders out in the open. 

The modifiers will be: -1 for 1 range band, -2 for area fire (1 for each target), +1 for the loader so 10 or less before the Crusaders chose their reactions.  Reactions are chosen before the roll of the dice but don't take place till after the shooting.  Both decide to Dive to cover so that's -4 so it'll be 6 or less for each target.  The LMG gunner rolls a 10 for the Crusader with the Ryshi and a 17 for the one with the Bogen. Resulting in: The shot against the Ryshi fails, but is less than 13, so the Coftyran players gets to move the Crusader and he ends up gobsmacked (stunned).  The Ryshi Crusader is too far from the wall to actually make it into any cover, so the player moves him 5" down toward the table edge and he is marked Gobsmacked (cover is more than 1 MA away in this case, and even though the opposing player gets to move the miniature and the idea is to put it in an inconvenient place, it still has to go to cover if available, but in this case player is thinking to put the miniature at an increased range).  The shot also fails against the Bogen armed Crusader but it's 13 and higher, so the Crusader player gets to move his own figure.  The only cover is the wall so the Bogen armed crusader is moved over the wall and marked prone.  Miniatures that Dive for Cover are always marked prone.  It's the cost of doing the dive and not getting hit.  Also, a 17 is a bad failure and the Coftyran LMG is also marked Gobsmacked (the gun jammed, or he got hit by something, or distracted by a beautiful butterfly that landed on his gunsight reminding him that there is beauty in the world even among the horrors of war....)

For the second activation, The Coftyran players has a rhyfler do a ranged attack action versus the Crusdaer LMG. 


 Modifiers are: -1 for 1 range band (over 8 but less than 16), -2 for cover (the wall is more than light cover but less than trenches and such), and since that LMG has GOT to go the player spends a point of Pluck (started with 3, now down to 2) to have the other Rhyfler within 4" do supporting fire for a +2 for an 11 or less before the crusader reaction.  He does the smart thing and dives for cover for the -4 making it a 7 or less.  The Coftyran rolls a 9.  Thats a failure, but less than 13 and the target dove;  the Coftyran player gets to move the miniature and choses backward (can't move it out of cover) away from his loader and he is Gobsmacked.  


For the third Activation the Coftyran player has the Cryfen LMG gunner take a second action and recover from being Gobsmacked (maybe he eats the butterfly), as he doesn't want him to remain that way if the Crusaders becomes active as he'll be a big target.  He checks if he has a 4th activation, and he does not.  Though that's fine, the Crusaders have been put on the back foot, and 3 of his rhyflers have taken combat actions, the other one spent his time being a loader.  Really only the Yawdryl has done nothing but stand there looking pleased. 

Crusader becomes the active payer now.  He spends the first and second activations to give Recovery actions to his two rhyflers that are gobsmacked.  The third Activation is given to recently recovered Ryshi armed miniature for a ranged attack.  


Because the Ryshi Rhyfler was moved back last time, he's now -2 for the range for two rangebands (Over 16 but less than 24).  The Cryfen LMG is in light cover but the ryshi's large Caliber rule ignores light cover so 12-2 is 10 so far while the Coftyran considers the reaction and finally chooses a reaction shot for a further -1; total of 9 or less.  The Crusader rolls a 13 and misses.  The Coftyran gets his reaction shot now so it's -2 for range (same range bands) and -3 for snapfire but +1 for the loader is 8 or less.  He rolls 12 and misses.  

Crusader player checks for a fourth activation and has it and decides to give one of the Bogen armed Rhyflers a ranged attack action.   


The Crusader player wishes someone was close enough to give support fire but no one is within 4 inches.  The modifiers are -1 for the range (over 6 but less than 12 (but barely)), -1 for light cover, for a total of 10 or less.  The Coftryan decides that's to good of a shot and chooses to Dive for cover as a reaction for -4 so the final skill check is gonna be 6 or less.  The Crusader rolls an 11; a failure but less than 13 and the target dove so again, the Crusader moves the miniature and he is Gobsmacked.  The Crusader moves him to the left along the edge of the cover (can't have him dive out of cover).  


Crusader checks for a 5th activation and does not have one. 

Round 3 now out of 9.  The Coftyran becomes the active player.  Spends the first activation to have the Godsmack'd Rhyfler take a Recovery action.  Then spends two activations to have the Cryfen LMG do an Aimed shot at the Crusader LMG.  

The modifiers start off with -2 cover for the wall, an Aimed has no range penalties, +1 for the loader for an 11 or less.  The Crusader LMG decides his reaction will be to Dive again (he just got up!) for a -4 for a 7 or less.  The Coftyran rolls a 12, for the gobsmacked result and decides to leave him where he is as he already far enough out of position.  The Coftyran player asks if he has a fourth action and does, so he moves the Rhyfler who recovered back to his spot next to his buddies for that rhyfler's second action.  He asks if there is a 5th and there is not.



Round 4 (of 9) and the cards so have been 3, 4, 4.  The Crusader becomes the active player.   He uses one Activation to have the LMG gunner recover and another to give the LMG gunner a move action to get back to his spot by the loader and the bend in the wall.  As a third activation he has the Rsyhi Rhyfler sprint up.  


The Coftryan player considers for a few moments if he wants to use a pluck for Opportunity fire with the Cryfen LMG against the Rhyfler who just ran into close range...The Coftyran player knows that the Crusader is gonna have 5 activations this round and is probably gonna use one of those to fire the Rsyshi... yeah, gonna do it.   The Coftyran player spends a pluck (now down to 1) for the opportunity fire.  The opportunity fire happens when the Coftyran player wishes, which in this case is basically just at the end of the Crusader move so the target will be in close range / 1 range band. and this interrupts the Crusader action.  Now the Crusader player has to think; he can choose to react (with a dive or reaction fire) which means he aborts what the current action is or he can choose not to react and continue what he is doing (if the shot misses).  Since he is already basically at the end of his sprint anyway, he decides to dive for cover.  If the opportunity fire had happened at the start of the move and he chose a reaction, he basically wouldn't move.  

 The modifiers are: none for range (within 8),  -3 for snap-fire, -4 for dive, +1 for the loader fora total of -6 and a 6 or less to hit.   The LMG rolls a 13.  That's a failure that leaves the Crusader in charge of his own miniature.  The is no cover within 5" the MA, so the Rhyfler goes an inch more and is prone.  


Not the best result for the Coftyran.  he wasn't so much trying to prevent the Crusdaer from moving but trying to get in a shot first and prevent the crusader from shooting.  Didn't work.  Guess we can't be lucky in both games AND love.  The Crusader player asked if he gets a 4th activation, and he really hopes so... We already know that he does because we're Third Party Omniscient. As the fourth Activation he gives the Rsyhi Rhfler a ranged attack action.

to Recap; That Rhyfler took one action to sprint (double move) which was interrupted at a point (in this case, near the very end) by the opportunity fire which triggered a reaction.  Reactions are not Activations or Actions.  The rhyfler aborts what he was doing (in this case sprinting) to do the reaction at the point of the interruption.  The Rhyfler is still available to take a second action, has not yet taken a combat action, and is in a position / status where he can take a ranged attack action.  If he were prone behind the wall he could not shoot at anyone as he would not have LOS. 

None of this terrain blocks line of sight, except for Prone miniatures who cans see up to any edge.  So the Prone guy in the open can see to the edge of the light woods but not into it, so can shoot the miniatures on the edge, so in this case can see the LMG gunner but not the loader.  (The graphic is a little off, but the LMG is at the edge, truuuust me).   

Anyway, the modifiers are: none for range, there's also no penalty for firing prone, the Rsyhi's Large Caliber ignore the light cover for no negatives and a straight up 12 or less so far.  The LMG gunner decides to dive as a reaction for -4 and the roll needed is 8 or less.  The roll is 7 and finally someone is shot / OOA. The LMG gunner is marked OOA but left on the board.  The Crusader payers gets +1 Pluck for doing that for a total of 4 now.  

The Crusader player asks if there is a 5th Activation and low and behold there is.  He considers for a moment or two to give the activation to the other prone Rhyfler with the Bogen whose been on the ground since the first round.  There are never enough activations.  It's what makes the choices matter.    Feelin' hot hot hot, he has another Rhyfler take a shot at one the enemy in the woods.

The modifiers are becoming familiar: -1 for 1 rangeband (over 6 but less than 12), -1 for light cover, the Coftyran chooses a reaction Fire for -1 for a 9 or less.  The roll is 3.  don't see very many of those. The Coftyran gets put OOA, the Crusafer player gets a point of Pluck (for 5 now, not that he has been needing them). and since that is a critical success the Rhflyer who made the check gets a free bonus action.  So he shoots at the other guy at the edge of the woods.  Even though the Rhyfler has taken a combat action this round, the bonus action can be anything.  The mods are the same (still over 6 but less than 12, in light cover, and the player decides another reaction shot) for 9 or less.  The roll is 12 and a miss.  The reaction shot is -1 for range, -2 for the wall, -3 for the snapfire, for 6 or less.  It's a miss. 


That was quite a round for the Crusaders. Now it's round 5 (of 9) and the Coftyrans are the active player.   

For the first activation, the Rhyfler that was the loader for the Cryfen LMG will perform a tend wounded action.  He's within a inch of his fallen friend so he gets to scoot up to base to base as part of the action.

Tend wounded is a d6 and lower is better; the roll is 2 which means it turns out the LMG just had his cage rattled and is alright.  He is marked prone but is back in action.  Being prone inside some terrain means he has no LOS to anyone and no one to him. This also gets the Coftyran player a point of Pluck for a total of 2 now.  

With the second activation the same Rhyfler will take second action for a ranged attack against the prone crusader out in the open.  


Modifiers are: none for range (within 8), -2 for being prone.  Prone Rhyflers cannot Dive for cover as a reaction (they're already on the ground) but can do a reaction shot for -1 for a total of -3 and 9 or less.  The roll is 8.  The target is OOA and Coftyrans get a point of pluck for a total of 3.  

Third Activation.  The Yawdryl is more than an inch away from his OOA rhyfler.  He doesn't want to spend two actions to move close and then tend wounded, so he spends a point of Pluck (back down to 2) to move 1 inch, which doesn't count as an action or activation, and now that he is within an inch he can do the third activation for a Tend Wounded action, which moves him into base to base.  It's a d6 roll and which again comes up 2.  The OOA guy is OK after all and is marked prone.  


The Coftyran players asks if there is a 4th activation and there is.  Choices choices.  He has the Rhyfler who is prone stand up so that next round there could be some group move. he asks if there is a 5th action and no, there is not. Big bummer for the Royalist.  

Round 6 of 9.  The Crusader player is excited because the LMG gunner finally gets to do something besides dive for cover.  And oh lookie, there's a group of bad guys right over yonder...  The Crusdaer player uses the first activation to have the LMG gunner do an area fire action.


The Ha-11 has a range band of 10, so there's no modifier for range, Area Fire ignores light cover, so it's just -3 (-1 for each target) and a +1 for having a loader so -2 before the targets react.  The smart thing to do would have them all dive for cover but he Coftyran player is feeling like his attack has really stalled and it's time to be gutsy.  Each target can have it's own reaction but they all decide to react with a reaction shot for -1, so each is 9 or less to hit with the skill check of the Crusader LMG.  The rolls going from left to right are 11, 11, and 9.  Two failures and one hit and put OOA. 

Now the two remaining Quar get their reaction fire

The Yawdryl with an SMG has a range band of 4.  So it's -2 for range, -2 for cover, -1 for snapfire for a total of -5 and a roll of 7 or less.  he rolls a 9 and misses.  The Quar with the Harlech rifle has -1 for range, -2 for cover, -3 for snapfire for a total of -6 for a roll of 6 or less.  He rolls a 7.  so of course, he will spend a point of Pluck (down to 1) to turn the 7 to a 6 for a success and put the LMG Quar OOA. The Coftyran player does not get a point of pluck for putting an enemy OOA because he spent pluck to do it.  

The Crusader player is not pleased.  For the second activation he finally gets the Rhyfler whose been prone since the beginning of the game a move action.  It loses 1" to stand but then can move 4" towards the wall.  


Third activation.  The rhyfler acting as the loader will do a tend wounded action for the OOA LMG.  I play it that if the LMG fires with the loader bonus then the loader later on cannot take a combat action but can do a non-combat one like move, tend wounded, write a poem, or make a dirty joke.  A d6 roll and it's 5, which indicates the LMG is an actual KIA, and removed from the board.  

Ut-oh, the Crusaders are 1 away from the sudden death condition.  The Crusader player asks if there is a 4th activation and there is.  He has the Rhyfler that just did the Tend Wounded do a move action for its second action and move up to the wall and closer to his friend. 

The Crusader player checks if there is a 5th activation and low and behold there is.  Hmm, the Crusader player feels like he somehow wasted an opportunity.  Trying to even the odds some he decides to give  the Rhyfler by the wall a ranged Attack action.  'Actually,' he says, 'we'll spend a point of Pluck (down to 4) to give the previous guy a 1 inch scoot, so that he'll be within 4 inches of the firing Rhyfler, and we'll spend another point of pluck (down to 3) to have him do supporting fire. 

'Oh Wait,' The Coftyran player says, "that can't happen as the miniature has already done two actions this round, tend wounded and move, so can't do supporting fire as that counts as a combat action.' 
"Man, not only are you devastatingly handsome but also a rule expert.' says the Crusader player.
The Coftyran player offers that the Crusader player can take it all back, but he says that he'll keep the scoot and the ranged attack.  He also gets back 1 point of pluck (up to 4, "can't seem to spend these things").  

The roll is (say it all together now) -1 for range (over 6 but less than 12), -1 for cover, but will the target react?  This will be the second time this Rhyfler will be reacting (he took a reaction shot versus the LMG earlier in the round) and additional reactions cost a point of Pluck and the Coftyrans only have 1 Pluck left....oh WTH he'll take a reaction shot (down to none), and now the shot is 9 or less.  He rolls a 12 and misses.  The reaction shot is -1 for range, -2 for cover, -3 for the snapshot for a total of -6 and a 6 or less roll...rolls 9 and a miss.


Round 7 (of 9), and the Coftyrans are the active player.  In the discard pile of the Actiation deck there is a 3,three 4s, and two 5s.  That means the possible remaining cards are two 3s, a 4, and a 5. but one of those cards has been removed remember, so the last three cards could be two 3s and a 4, or a 3 and a 4 and a 5,  or two 3s and a 5... you get the idea.  

Assessing the situation:


The Coftyran player sees that the Crusaders are down 2 Quar with one KIA and one so far out that it's unlikely anyone going to get out there to try tend wounded.  The winner will have more alive at the end of turn which is only 3 more rounds...  and if one more crusader falls it's all suddenly over due to the sudden death condition.  Time to lay on some fire.

For the first activation he'll have the LMG get up from being prone so that he can have LOS, and for the second and third activations he'll have the LMG do an aimed shot...
Modifiers are: no range penalty for Aiming, -2 for cover for the wall, +1 for loader for a 11 or less to start and the Crusader reaction, who can't risk anything so chooses to Dive for cover for an additional -4 so the skill check becomes 7 or less.  The roll is a 12 and if you've read this far you know that is Gobsmacked and the Coftyran player moves him out of support range.  
The Coftyran player checks to see if there is a fourth activation.... yes there is sighs the Crusader payer.  The Coftyrans will give a ranged attack action to a rhyfler against the gobsmacked guy...


-1 for the range, -2 for the cover, but Gobsmacked Rhyflers can't react so it's just -3 for a 9 or less.  The roll is 7, resulting in OOA and ending the game.  The Coftyrans have successfully ambushed the Crusaders.  

For fun, the Coftyrans check their card, and it was a 4, so the winning shot was their last activation for that round.  That means in the next round (round 8) the Crusaders would get a 3 or a 5 and in the last round (round 9) the Coftyrans would get whatever the Crusaders didn't.  There are 9 rounds to a turn.  This game was only 1 turn.  A more typical game would be twice as many points and miniatures and 3 turns.  


End Game

There are a lot of unique and fun mechanics in the Rhyfler system that I enjoy more than I thought I would.  I REALLY like the reaction system, and I find the game is more tactical than expected for something being played with Anteater People.  What the action and reaction system does is have the players constantly making choices.  And choices are fun in games.  Not so much in real life.  Lucky for me I've reached the age that I don't have many choices anymore and just live with consequences of the ones I've made.   Luck might not be the right word.  

I didn't set up to illustrate any one particular mechanic over and another in this play through, but let the game naturally play out.  If this sort of thing turns out to be helpful then there might be more of them.  AARs take forever to right, and reminded why I never do them.

Thanks for Reading, 
Double Thanks for writing a comment.
Till next time

-Stew

44 comments:

  1. Quite the writing. If you aren't playing correctly then it must be a big flaw in the rules..

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    1. Thanks Pan. It's not so much that there are flaws but more that it's something of a work in progress and in development. And I like to invite myself into conversations. 😁

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  2. Sorry Stew, partway through I ate a butterfly and became gobsmacked.......the rest of the AAR is a bit hazy.....☺
    Rules. Ah rules! Way back when I started, I lived a long way away from other gamers; there was no internet or instant communication, just me and my school friend.
    Then rules came in different forms. There were books with the rules embedded in the many pages of text explaining the designer's thinking and other bits of background and discussions on what was used for terrain and such things.
    Then there was the two sides of A4 or a bit more but a handful of pages. These described mechanisms, sometimes clearly, sometimes not.
    Then there were the published sets that were much longer and tried to explain the mechanisms, instead of just presenting them.
    Having written rules, what's really hard is communicating how you envisage they are played; people come up with all sorts of weird situations that you never saw coming or couldn't predict. Unless you are there to explain, it's up to th players to sort out.....
    Some rules are written clearly, others may as well be in a foreign language. I don't think we have necessarily moved on from the early days, except now rules are sometimes referred to as a "toolkit". This seems to translate as " bare bones of mechanics if you encounter something odd, resolve it yourself..... " to me that's just lazy and sloppy writing.
    The best designs describe things well, but are still sometimes open to interpretation......
    None of that was very helpful, was it? ☺
    Neil

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    1. Thanks Neil. In any game, there will be an gap between 'play as intended' (rules as written) versus "this is how we do it." I'm reminded of how many different versions there are of Free Parking in Monopoly.
      I do not mind having to resolve things myself, and stuff does come up that can't possibly be predicted as the population of people playing the game grows. Though it is a feature of our modern age that I can ask the actual rules author "hey, what did you mean exactly when you wrote..."
      If anything, I'd like to think that I was contributing to the playtesting by providing this AAR. 😁😁

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    2. Very thorough battle report and a useful exercise in play testing. Reading your play-by-play, I was thinking that a Western Gunfight set of rules might work as well.

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    3. thanks Jonathan. I certainly think that the reactions provide a feeling like a firefight and that is very Western. 😁

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  3. Cheers for this Stew, always good to see a set of rules explained. I need to get another game in with my Quar once I get the buildings finished

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    1. Thanks Neil. This might not be 100% right way to play but I can truthfully say it’s a fun way to play. 😀
      Looking forward to seeing some buildings.

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  4. If you took the Quar bit out and swapped the weapons they strike me as though they could also be used for WWII skirmish. An interesting run-through Stew, and AARs do take a lot of effort. Worthwhile though, as it will be nice coming back to reread reports after a few years.

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    1. Thanks Lawrence. Yes, that’s part of the appeal for me about them; as it’s really a 20th century skirmish game. Could just as easily be played with humans but the uniqueness kinda sets it apart ya know?
      Besides, if you didn’t know WWII then the weapons would sound strange. Garande? B.A.R? Kar 98k? All sound made up to me. 😀

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  5. Dunno about the Quar or the rules, so can't say much there. However, I do very much like the graphic representation of the game. I think we go overboard sometimes with the "pretty" as opposed to the functional. This is a much more clear way to illustrate game mechanics (and even do a battle report).

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    1. Thanks Ed. I do find the PP to very functional and this style of AAR more useful / interesting than the usual “over on the left flank..”. Though it did help there were only 10 miniatures. 😀

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  6. A neat way to present the rules mechanisms Stew. I can easily see these being used across quite a few different periods, given the clever mechanisms they contain. And yes, AAR's can take longer to write than the game!

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    1. Thanks Steve. I've become a big fan of this format, as it's easy to see what is happening. 😁

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  7. Yes, agree with Steve, and Lawrence earlier, that it would be a pretty simple matter to translate these rules to any kind of low intensity skirmish level game. Also agree with the point that the simple PP presentation made it very clear to understand the narrative - might have been nice to throw in a few eye candy pix of the table and miniatures too, but we can't have everything in life, can we?

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    1. Thanks Keith, As the Quar world is essentially based in reality, the rules and the miniatures do easily transition back and forth. The table wasn't much to look at in this case anyway. 😁
      I'm sure you can have everything in life, but I know I don't.

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  8. A great explanation of the rules Stew. And if anything does not match to what the rules author intended he can always change the rules to fit 😂

    I do like the rules and in some ways I think they are more realistic than a lot of other rules I have seen. I like the idea of the reaction to the firing. I wonder if this could be modified so that if a squad receives unexpected fire it automatically dives for cover or goes prone, even if it is not directly aimed at the individual soldier.
    I am pretty sure I would dive for cover if someone fired a gun near me - admittedly it would be a very slow and gentle dive but a dive nonetheless. 🤣

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    1. Thanks Ben. I've been chatting with the authors in FB and we mostly on the same page, though maybe they're staying politely quiet on things that I really messed. I don't wanna overstep my association, I'm just an enthusiastic fan with a computer.
      I could certainly dive for cover if need be, but the getting back up....😁

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    2. Agree about the getting back up - I would certainly be gobsmacked 😂

      Ignore my rule suggestion. I was just thinking about tinkering with the rules not asking anyone to change them. My children don't listen to me so I don't expect anyone else to either. 😁

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  9. Well I felt I owed you a proper read and a comment seeing as how you’ve had to skim through all the crap I’ve written in the past. I actually did previously download the freebie rules since like others, I felt they would work well with skirmish games of WW1 or 2. Your walk through and PP diagrams were pretty easy to follow and I hope you get some positive feedback from the FB group. I don’t do FB but my YouTube feed has had a number of new Quar related videos recently, so you’re clearly “on fleek” or whatever the kids are saying these days. I noticed in one of the videos that Quar tanks were involved. Any plans to get some?

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    1. Thanks Mark. Ya kinda did after ALL those ECW reports....LOL. I'm joking, swear.
      yes, the rules are very World War skirmishy and that's a main part of the appeal for me. It's basically a historical game with a funky skin.
      I do have two of the tanks, these are practically collector's items as they are the retail version from over 10 years ago that I somehow managed to scup up from the internet, these days the tanks are 3d prints. I'll get to tanks eventually. Currently there are no official rules for tanks anyway but these miniatures are also gonna be my Bolt Action Armies so there will be tanks.😁😁

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  10. A great battle report Stewart, and if I was planning to play Quar, I would find it very useful, but still a very interesting read to see how it works.

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    1. Thanks Dave. I'm happy it was clear enough to follow. 😁
      but I thought everyone was planning on playing Quar?

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  11. Glad to see that we did not play it too far off rules-as-intended (although we did spend a pluck to get a pluck, oops).

    Is there any talk about making this a bit larger of a game? 3-5 activations is very stingy for a full platoon of figures... maybe each caerten gets a card draw? That way if you have a couple of officers you get enough activations to limp along. Or maybe some more group activations?

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    1. Thanks David. At the time, everyone was playing it that way, and afterward I made a house rule that if you spend pluck that roll can't earn you pluck, and in some FB discussion of another topic one of the rules authors confirmed it was supposed to be that way. 😁

      About the other bit: I have some ideas. one is that I'm gonna raise the amount the leadership of the Is-Caerten from 2 to 4 or 5 for group moves. Also, might try out the IC having a special leadership action that for 2 actions he can tell EVERYONE to move (or maybe everyone in a 12 inch radius).
      Lastly, I think it would be fun to do something like this: if you have an IC present, at the end of the turn, starting with the active player, the card that was discarded at the beginning of the turn may now be used to give that many move actions to any ready rhyflers that were not activated during the turn. (did that make sense?)

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    2. Using the last card could be an interesting way to make sure that you do not have too many "leftovers". Maybe play alternates based on who went last?

      Increasing the Is-caerten (and Caerten and Synol's) command radius is probably another way to make sure that the "chosen quar" can move up and do something useful.

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  12. Stew I’ve generally found that most rules have good and bad parts. We often have house rules to manage these issues, but to be honest rules are not the most interesting part of the hobby for me 🙂

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    1. Thanks Matt. Very true. I don't mind tinkering with rules to get them to do ore what I think is 'right." But at the same time I don't want to write my own either; it's like a balancing act.
      I wouldn't say that rules are the most interesting part of the hobby either, but I do think they are very important, as the rules are how we play with the toys and have a large impact on oour experience. 😁

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  13. Thank you for this. I will read it closely. I ordered the starter set a few days ago and have been reading the rules whilst awaiting delivery, but (presumably because this is the skirmish variant) they are more complex than I expected. I like the way Games Workshop USED to do it (like two decades ago) where they would walk you through the rules bit by bit with "starter" scenarios, so I might have to work out something like that.

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    1. Thanks Jennifer. The rules have more going on than first blush. While I don't think they are majorly complicated in themselves, the issue os that the rules are very much WIP, being changed and addendumed, and in the quickstart version which are incomplete. 😁
      If you like FB, I'd recommend joining the Quar Discussion group (it's private, but they let in anyone) because it's a nice place to ask questions.
      But you do know an expert... (it's me). 😁

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    2. I've just joined the Clash of Rhyfles one - someone posted this blogpost on there, so it caught my eye. I'm also looking for a clearer QRS, as I haven't absorbed the abbreviations yet.

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    3. you mean you DONT read this blog religiously????!!!!
      LOL 🤣🤣

      The one that I am a part of is called Quar Discussion. It's a private group so you have to ask to join but they let in everyone. The Clash is a smaller public group but has a lot of the same people. I'm not in the clash one because how many FB groups on Quar do I need? just the 1.
      I have a homemade QRS if you're interested.

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    4. I got into Quar Discussion, and found your QRS there, thanks!

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    5. Cool. That one is out of date after the latest addendum. I’d take it down if I knew how.
      If you message me I can send you an updated one. If ya want. 😀

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  14. Well that was fun but I do miss those funny sci fi fences the Quar have, you could have had a couple of pictures for the less rules obsessed/ inclined?
    Best Iain

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    1. Thanks Iain. LOL; sci-fi fences. I'll do pictures next time, promise. 😁

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  15. I always feel that with any game there's always a bit of a negotiation to be had between the rules as written and those playing the game to make sure that everyone has a fun time so maybe not that surprising that different folk play so differently! I'm just amazed at the detail you pack in to your AAR - I guess taking detailed notes during the game is just part of the job as an official Quar Ambassador!

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    1. Thanks Thant. You are correct; it's a negotiation / social contract. But everyone has the same goal of having a good time. 😁
      and I take my role as Quar ambassador VERY seriously. 😁

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  16. I can't say that I fully understood all of the intricacies of what you discussed but I am really glad the FB group is treating you well. I think groups are literally the only thing in FB that is worthwhile and I do miss being a part of them from time-to-time since I deactivated FB.

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    1. Thanks Jeff.
      I haven’t used FB for anything but the groups. I do like them.
      In fact; I have been thinking about the differences between blogging and FB groups. Each has specific appeals and drawbacks.

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  17. That's a fab and edifying way to do a playthrough of rules Stew. Brilliantly clear and a fair effort on your part, I'd say.
    Regards, James

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    1. Thanks James! Once I got into the grove it kinda wrote itself. 😁

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  18. The last gobsmacked crusader that went OOA to end the game was actually an illegal target right? Since he dove for cover from the LMG the last activation which resulted in gobsmacked he would have also gone prone. Then being prone behind cover means no LOS. I ask because I’m still figuring out the rules. Otherwise I very much enjoyed the report TY

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    1. Hi there Anon,
      No, but that's just because the way I've been playing "dive for cover' is that 12 or less and the owning player moves the miniatures to cover and ends up prone, and 13 or higher the opponent moves the miniature and ends up gobsmacked but not prone. This is how that rule makes sense to me. Going prone makes it so that the miniature is 'safe' but also has lost it's own LOS and being gobsmacked but standing there leaves the miniature vulnerable to further attack (and now can't do further reactions) and in previous games being prone and gobsmacked is not really a big disadvantage, but gobsmacked and not prone IS.
      Though I do play it that a prone miniature behind / in cover has no LOS as you state.

      There is a lot of vagueness in the QuickStart rules, and there seems to be a fair number of hold overs from previous versions. So as I said in the beginning I'm not claiming that this is 100% right or accurate. I did post it to the Quar Facebook discussion and the only feedback I go about rules was that there's a bit where a rhyfler takes 3 actions (recovery and aimed shot) but that's because I had a different understanding of actions versus activations....and another story.

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